Here are the links to the interview: It starts at 1:57 into the hour.

Direct link: http://traffic.libsyn.com/guntalk/111515guntalkC.mp3

Download link:  http://guntalk.libsyn.com/guntalk-11-15-2015-part-c

YouTube Link: https://youtu.be/EIsSrh6IIBc

 

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